African Methodist Episcopal Church votes against Gay marriage and it isn't reported in the LGBT media.
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African Methodist Episcopal Church votes to continue its ban on Gay marriage.
What is interesting is that the LGBT press avoided reporting on this. The reason I found out, is that I track homophobic groups, and the story should up in my email inbox. Only ONE Gay news outlet mentioned the vote against Gay marriage. The Dallas Morning News didn’t report it either.
From the Christian Post. We have to reply on homophobes to learn about news important to the LGBT. Quoting from the article.
General Conference delegates voted 896 to 722 in favor of deleting the amendment to allow same-sex marriage, while another vote allowed for the continuing work of the Ad Hoc AME Sexual Ethics Discernment Committee to continue its work.
AME Church bishops issued a written statement to General Conference that seemingly questioned if a committee could make acceptable changes to church teaching on LGBT issues.
"Rational arguments on the matter of sexuality, sexual orientation, same sex marriage, the structure of the family, and the meaning of male and female will not resolve the controversy because the issues have deep theological and psychological roots," the bishops stated, as quoted by Religion News Service.
https://www.christianpost.com/news/ame-church-reaffirms-ban-on-same-sex-marriage.html
Quoting from the Religion News Service.
The delegates voted 896-722 to delete a bill that would have removed a ban on same-sex marriage from the historically Black denomination’s rule book, according to The Christian Recorder, the AME’s official periodical. “The Doctrine and Discipline” of the denomination says “the AME Church believes that unions of any kind between persons of the same sex or gender are contrary to the will of God.”
For those apologists wanting to make excuses for the AME I point out that it is 2024, the Gay movement has been around for a long time now. The AME is slow and delulu.
In comparison look the Thai legislative votes for Gay marriage.
Thai Senate was 130 to 4 in favor with 18 abstaining.
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/18/nx-s1-5010446/thailand-same-sex-marriage
The lower house of the Thai parliament voted 400 to 10 in favor.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/27/thai-parliament-passes-same-sex-marriage-bill
Only 1% of Thailand is Christian and it seems the Thai are aware that Christianity is a destructive force and would be destructive to their society in general. Christians whine about not making progress in Thailand even though they are working furiously to make progress. When the population of a nation thinks rather than let a talking snake book give them an excuse for bigotry, Gay people can do fairly well.
The Human Rights Campaign, (HRC) has this summary of the AME’s homophobia.
https://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-african-methodist-episcopal-church
I saved it at the Internet Archive in case HRC decided to pull or modify this page.
The HRC is into begging for our rights.
This is my input to the AME.
More input to the AME.
AME online presence
https://www.ame-church.com/our-church/our-beliefs/
https://www.facebook.com/AMEChurchOfficial
https://www.instagram.com/AMEChurchOfficial/
https://www.youtube.com/c/AfricanMethodistEpiscopalChurchOfficial
Dallas is in the 10th Episcopal district.
https://www.10thdistrictame.org/
https://www.10thdistrictame.org/ChurchDirectory.html
Some of the pastors for these churches think they are moral voices. They can all shut up.
Dallas area AME churches
Some of the pastors at some of these churches think they are moral voices. They need to be discouraged from thinking that way. Even if they profess to support Gay marriage, they haven’t quit the AME and their activities support the AME. The existence of the AME is a threat to the LGBT and has been injurious to the LGBT.
The high incidence of HIV in the African American population in Dallas is driven by homophobia.
St. Paul AME
Smith Chapel AME
Greater St. James Temple AME
Greater Garth Chapel AME
Agape Temple AME
Greater Allen Temple AME
New Jerusalem AME
Evening Chapel AME
Warren Chapel AME
Gaines Chapel AME
Payne Chapel AME
Lee Chapel AME
Bethel AME-Greenville
St. Paul AME - Rockwall
St. James AME- Terrell
St. Stephens AME
St. Paul AME - Mt. Pleasant
Quinn Chapel AME
Bradford Chapel AME
People Chapel AME
Meeks Chapel AME
Joy Tabernacle AME
Greater Fort Worth District
These churches are mostly in Fort Worth, but not all.
Baker Chapel AME
Joshua Chapel AME
Wesley Chapel AME
"Historic" Allen Chapel AME
Johnson Chapel AME
Bethel AME
St. James AME
Johnson Chapel AME
Visitor's Chapel AME
Anderson Chapel AME
St. James AME
Armstrong AME
Bethel/Salter Chapel AME
Forest Hill AME
Bethel AME
Greater Johnson Chapel AME
Baker Chapel AME
Bethel AME
Greater Edward Chapel AME
St. Peter Memorial AME
Mt. Olive AME
Bethel AME
Lee Chapel AME
Bethel AME
Sherman Chapel AME
Bethel AME
Brown Chapel AME
St. Stephen AME
Plantation Theology
There is an intelligent point made by some African American Christians that blaming African Americans behavior on the devil rather than the social conditions some African Americans find themselves in is “plantation theology.”
However, African Ameircans are almost, except for African and Caribbean immigrants after the Civil War, those who got their Christianity on the plantation.
Different groups around the world are making the connection between colonial conquest and Christianity.
This article is titled, “Maori atheism: a decolonizing project?,” published in Kotuitui: New Zealand Journal of Social Sciences Online.”
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1177083X.2024.2333544
Before the slavers and the European conquest of Africa there was only the Ethiopian Orthodox Church in Africa.
Christianity was used as a tool by imperialists to enable their conquest of Africa. Breaking down the belief structures of a subject peoples and reconstructing them to the imperialist’s ideas of what the subject peoples should believe is of course very useful in the subjugation and occupation of a nation.
Desmond Tutu, fighter against Apartheid in South Africa said:
When the missonaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said, “Let us pray.” We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land.
From, “The Philosophy of Colonialism: Civilization, Christianity, and Commerce,” at Emory University. The role of Christianity in the conquest of Africa can be found in many sources. I select this one since it is rather concise. Some quotes:
Christianity was one justification that European powers used to colonize and exploit Africa. Through the dissemination of Christian doctrine, European nations such as Great Britain, France, and the Netherlands sought to educate and reform African culture.
Christianity served as a major force in the partition and eventual colonization of Africa (Boahen 12). During the late 19th century, European nations increasingly vied for global power. In an attempt to augment political and regional influence, nations like Great Britain and France needed a justification for expansion.
Essentially Christianity was a guise by which Western governments justified the exploitation and conquest of African nations. In the poem The White Man’s Burden, poet Rudyard Kipling exclaims, “ Take up the White Man’s burden, The savage wars of peace—Fill full the mouth of Famine and bid the sickness cease”.Originally denoted as a reference to United States imperialism in the Philippines, the Anglos-centric basis of the poem holds true to the root structure of imperialist ideology. Denouncing the religious practices of Africans as witchcraft and heathenism, European nations sought to convert, and then exploit the indigenous peoples of Africa.
The African Methodist Church is still proud of aiding the colonial conquest of Africa.
Official African Episcopal interest in foreign missions began in 1827 when the Baltimore Conference authorized the dispatch of the Rev. Scipio Bean to Haiti. Prior to this in 1821 the Rev. Daniel Coker, representing the A.M.E. Church, left the United States for West Africa with the first group of persons sent out by the American Colonization Society. In 1840, the Rev. William Paul Quinn was commissioned as our first General Missionary. The present Department of Home and Foreign Missions began functioning with the election of its first Secretary of Missions in 1864, the Rev. John M. Brown.
It would seem to me, freeing the slaves in the United States would be more important than bothering independent Haitians who had already gotten rid of their slave masters.
https://ameglobalministries.org/global-missions/
Seems that a lot of the academic work in this area is concerned to excuse the AME’s missionary programs under imperialism. Probably there would be complaints and a scholar would find that the President of his university would find his writings “deeply troubling.”
There were no Baptists or Methodists except perhaps working the ships coming to purchase slaves.
Except for enslavement, it is mostly the case that someone is Christian because of an Empire, Roman, Spanish and Portugues for the Americas, the American conquest of Native American lands in the United States, the European Empires in Africa and Asia. The distribution of Christianity in the world is largely a stain marking imperial conquest.
The Thai, Chinese, Japanese have their ancient temples, their religious going back centuries, even millennia into the mists of time. They still have the gods of their ancestors. The Europeans and White Americans have their Norse and Greco-Roman religions preserved as literary treasures and what American doesn’t know who Thor is or Zeus? Yet how many African Americans can tell of Gods from the Sub-Sahara from whence their ancestors were taken?
As Christians did in the Americas and in the Philippines, the Christians have been devastating to indigenous religion in Africa.
Unrestrained by Western hypocrisies, the Hindu Post has a different take on this. Yes, they can be criticized and they do have an agenda, but they report what Western scholars won’t report. The title is, “How Christianity and Islam decimated Africa’s traditional religions.”
Kamala Harris spoke to the AME convention after they voted against Gay marriage.
Only ONE Gay publication reported this, Edge Media. (Article link at the end of this report.)
Most people learned about this through the conservative media which was quick to point it out.
Excepting one LGBT media outlet, It is ironic that we have to rely on conservative media outlets to learn about a presidential candidate speaking to homophobes.
The one LGBT outlet that reported it.
https://www.edgemedianetwork.com/story/335136
The LGBT media is the handmaiden of the Democratic Party. What might be called a movement is an appendage of the Democratic Party.
Also, we should be concerned that Christian nationalism might have more than one form and other varieties of Christian nationalism could be inimical to the rights of the LGBT.
