Counter Actions against homophobic Christians harassment on The Strip, Cedar Springs. Make them regret it.
I want to have a strike force team to show up when homophobic Christians invade The Strip to harass Gays and do a psyop on them.
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Organizing a strike force for when Christians invade The Strip on Cedar Springs.
Recently we had again, another Christian invasion of The Strip on Cedar Springs. The Dallas Liberation newsletter did a comprehensive post on it. You can read about it at this post.
[1] We need to defend the Gay community from aggressions by homophobic Christians.
[2] We need to have them bitterly regret coming to The Strip on Cedar Springs to harass the Gay community.
[3] We need to break them down psychologically to damage their movement or group.
We need to organize a counter strike force.
To do this we need to have effective tactics.
Will discuss tactics first and then forming a counter strike force. If we don’t have good tactics, we don’t need to bother organizing a counter strike force.
Tactics
The responses that the LGBT have had, though intended to defend the LGBT, are simply not effective and further the Christians are finding some of the responses useful to promote themselves and self-validate themselves.
We need to have better tactics.
The New Homophobia.
The Christians develop and discuss tactics to get the LGBT to try to give up being LGBT and to become ex-LGBT and get them into Christianity.
On group even got themselves involved in the AIDS Supper Club effort in Dallas. (Link to report at the end of this post.)
There strategy is to appear friendly, not use slurs or shout, and then engage in conversation to find a psychological weak point and work with that.
They don’t mind if you start the conversation shouting at them, as long as you are talking to them, they have you engaged with them and then they find a way to inside your thinking.
What is being proposed in this post is what is known as psychological warfare.
Some background information.
This is from Stanford University.
https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/courses/ww2/projects/psychological-warfare/
Other sources.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/psychological-warfare
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare
WHAT DOESN’T WORK
Screaming and yellow and cursing and blaspheming
They thrive on it. They flourish being yelled at and cursed. They then can imagine themselves heroes for their faith enduring the abuses of the world. They can live out their fantasies of being a crusader for Christ.
When you react strong to what they are saying, they see it as what they are saying must be really important since you are reacting to it.
It also tends to represent them as being reasonable and understanding and you as crazy and emotional and rude. This anti-Gay preacher loves it when he is verbally abused.
Arguing that the Bible isn’t anti-Gay
You have started your argument giving Christians authority over whether we have a right to exist within Christianity, within the Bible, based on winning a theological argument based on the usual convoluted contortions of theological discussions.
Homophobic Christians love this. They know each and every argument that Gay Christians might make and have a ready response. Arguing over the Bible has given them authority over whether Gays exist depending whether you can win the immediate argument.
Also, no theological question every is resolved. That is why there are thousands of Protestant denominations.
Gay Christians argue over the Bible because they want to be Gay and Christian. This is their own personal concern. They fail to comprehend that it isn’t the concern of the LGBT in general.
If some Gay Christians show up in response to homophobic Christians showing up on The Strip, we need to confront them with the harm their tactics do to the Gay community.
This should be our position in regard to Christians.
Talking about the logical contradictions in Christianity.
Gay atheists often do this. Christians wouldn’t be Christians is they were logical and analytical. They are called Christians, not Logicians. Also, over the last 20 centuries people have point out the illogic in Christianity, and the Christians have a rationalization for each and every logical issue. You might as well try teaching algebra to cats.
Discussion
When you talk to these homophobic Christians they might want to start with discussions, but they aren’t at all, not in the least interested in debating or thinking about the issues involved. They are using discussions to find out how you think, what your psychology is, to establish a rapport with you, to keep interaction going and find a way to find a weak point in your psychology, or to make a video to use to show how your thinking is flawed or some other purpose.
You are not in school and it isn’t a discussion club. This is perhaps the stupidest think I observe the LGBT doing in their videos.
They used your talking to them for videos.
WHAT MOTIVATES THESE CHRISTIANS WHO BOTHER GAYS
We need to understand what their motivations are, which are self-indulgent, and point them out. After all, why would anyone join such a group and go where they aren’t wanted?
They joint Christian churches to solve their personal problems and also to feel like they are something.
If you look at a lot of the churches, especially non-denominational, they offer a ready-made circle of friends, activities to get engaged in, roles in which they can feel they are special. It is not accidental they emphasis a personal relation to Jesus.
They want to be on an amusment thrill ride.
These things solve the individual’s problems of being lonely, not having friends, not having anything to do except watch TV or go to the mall, being bored, not having a career or a good job, not having any real talents and a general feeling of meaningless in their life.
Joining a church, they can be prayer warriors against demons, and fight Satan, and have a ready-made set of fellow prayer warriors, and people who will talk to them.
Joining a church, they can be Christian crusaders defying the world and making the world into their own play place. Crusaders need something to crusade against, and there in their city is the LGBT.
You don’t need to have any special abilities or talents. Being holy is mostly about NOT doing things.
If you are unattractive to the opposite sex, you instead of being sad, you can suddenly be a holy person practicing chastity.
For those with drug addiction problems, they use Christianity as a band aid to hold themselves together.
WHAT SHOULD OUR RESPONSE BE?
We need to understand their psychology and work to disable them psychologically.
We shouldn’t try to save them from their ideology, or convince them of anything.
The objective is to psychologically disable them from attacking the LGBT without any regards to the consequences. They need to stop using the LGBT to solve their personal problems.
Sometimes the psychological attack can be direct, but sometimes an indirect approached works better. The idea slips into their thinking before they realize it.
Personal attacks.
We psychologically disable them by speaking calmly about their psychological motivations to come harass the LGBT.
There might not be an immediate result, but if you have the right things to say, they will be things that stick in their thoughts and work over time.
Also, personal attacks on the individuals, but in a calm voice.
So here are some statements, to start out with.
“You are on fentanyl Jesus.” They are using Jesus as a drug.
“You are mediocrities with meaningless lives consuming Jesus as a solution.” Find as many ways of saying this as possible. This is why they are members of a church. They are likely people who had nothing going for them and had no future.
Say things like, “You have meaningless lives which you hope to fill with Jesus, and our using us to do that.”
“Instead of a being a nobody, I guess show up here makes you Christian crusader.” “Instead of playing Dungeons and Dragons,” you are playing “Christians and LGBT.”
For those who are saved from drugs, say, “How did I manage to not be drug addicted without Jesus?” Then say, “You are using Jesus as a band aid because you can’t control yourself. Theatrically, pretend to be in prayer, and say, “Jesus be my band aid, because I am a fool.”
If Jesus saved them from some other problems, your response is the same. “How did I avoid going to jail without Jesus. Oh, that right, I am not a fool.”
Since they are big on being sexually pure, you need to go after that with statements. “Is chastity a virtue when women won’t touch your body anyways?” For women, “Is chastity a virtue when men won’t look at you?”
“Don’t worry. Jesus can perform miracles. Some woman will be interested.”
Christians as a population tend to be overweight. Even the Christians are talking about it. Say things like, “Why don’t you pray for Jesus for strength to put down the fork?” Or “Why don’t you pray, Jesus, lead me from the temptation of Taco Bell and Sonic.” You should theatrically perform such a prayer. “Jesus help me resist a third helping of mash potatoes.”
Some LGBT will whine that this is mean. It is mean. It is meant to be mean. These Christians are mean. It is mean when Christians come to our community to try to break our LGBT identities. They deserve it.
One of our goals should be to have at least one of the homophobic Christians break down in tears.
The other goal is to have the things we say get inside their head and grind them down over time.
Using the Bible, but not to defend LGBT, but make them uncomfortable.
Using the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.
For example, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah which anti-LGBT Christians have foremost in their thoughts. In that Bible account, Lot offers his two daughters to the men who want to know who Lots visitors are. Know in this case is rape. So Lot is offering his daughters to be gang banged instead.
If it is a man, ask, “If an angel was visiting your house, and a mob showed up, would you hand over your daughters to be gang banged? Would your faith be strong enough?”
Especially ask these questions of the leader.
If it is a woman ask, “If an angel was visiting your father, would you be willing to be gang banged by a mob threaten the angels?” “Have you been vaccinated against HPV?”
If someone has only sons, and angels are visiting, and there is a mob demanding to see the angles, would it be okay for the father to have his sons sent out to the mob? What lubricants would be Biblical. Would it have to be either olive oil or animal fat?
If an angel visited a house, and there were sons and daughters, and a mob came to the house, is it a priority to offer the daughters first, or what the mob would likely prefer, or is it oldest first?
Come up with as many ways to ask inane questions about the story of Lot.
These little extra incidental statements like being vaccinated against HPV or about lubricants help make the question more immediate and real.
Think of variations. If you didn’t have children, would you send out your wife?
DO NOT discuss the logic of the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Discussing the logic of something makes it more abstract, that provides an escape for them.
The Christians focus on the story of Sodom and Gomorrah to attack the LGBT, but the horror of sending daughters out to be gang raped by the town, is avoided.
The usefulness of this response, is that if they want to come up with counter arguments, they will have to think about it and discuss it which would do further psychological damage.
Virgin Mary
Ask them how they would feel if their daughter was impregnated by god at the age of 12 to 14.
Ask them if a girl was 12 or 14 could she really give consent.
Ask them if Mary was immaculate, does that mean their mother was dirty.
Ask them how they would feel if god impregnated their fiancé.
Ask women how they would feel if god impregnated them this evening.
Atheist like to discuss whether a virgin baby would have two Y chromosomes and stuff like that. Since it is a miracle, and not technology in Christian belief these types of arguments are worthless.
Using other Bible passages
Other sections of the Bible might be used. Try to use prosaic ways to make them immediate and repulsive.
For example, in 2 Kings 23-25, King James Bible, “little children” are taunting the prophet Elisha for being bald headed. So, Elisha called out to the Lord and then two female bears came out and killed forty-two lads.
Do not discuss the excessive severity of the punishment or anything logical. The first thing after mentioning the story, ask, “Did the female bears like the taste of the boys.” This makes the horror more immediate, and it doesn’t get directed into some theological rationalization. Or ask, “If they made fun of Elisha’s clothes, would they have gotten tore up by bears.” Or ask, “Wouldn’t the screaming of boys being tore limb from limb be worse than taunting?”
The different Bibles.
There are actually several different Bibles. Likely the homophobic Christians don’t even realize it. They likely think that there is just one Bible handed down through the will of god in history. They have no idea that there is the Bible of the Ethopian Christians with its many additional books and in particular the Book of Enoch.
They don’t know that the Bible refers to books, some are which are lost, some which have been found by archeologists, but not used by the Western Christian Bible, some which were excluded back in the first few centuries.
Their confidence in the Bible can be shaken when they realize that actually there are several different Bibles, some quite different and there is no good reason to accept one over the other.
This is a link to a four part post on the history of the Bible, how politics shaped it and opportunities to disrupt Christianity.
Also, since these are Christians looking for thrills, the Book of Enoch would interest them. We can sow theological confusion into their ranks. In particular for African American homophobic Christians we need to ask why they are using the Bible of the slaveowners, the slave traders, and the imperialists who tore up Africa.
Heretics and denominations and burning at the stake.
Ask them about what they think about the Catholic church if they are Protestants and about the Protestants if they are Catholic. If they are Protestant talk about the Virgin Mary.
The theological conflicts in Christianity are still there and the type of Christian that would come to a Gayborhood or Pride event is the type that has the most extreme sectarian views.
Other religions and demons and witches
Talk to them about Buddhism, Hinduism and Taoism. About other gods. Do they think they are demons? Try to record them if they talk or refuse to talk.
Talk about Satan, witches, and demons and what they are going to do about them. Make sure you are recording.
Vocabulary
Say “In Christian mythology,” instead of “in the Bible,” when it doesn’t imped verbal tactics.
Some of these items will need to be developed further, and new ideas will be added.
Counter Strike force.
We need to organize a team to show up when the homophobic Christians show up on The Strip and test our tactics. As we respond to homophobic Christian groups we can develop our tactics.
While we are on the strip, we will also show people on the strip how to respond. They can learn from what we do, but we can also instruct them on a few slogans.
This is the Facebook group, Dallas Gay Liberation.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/413814316746749
The Gay strike force Facebook group is here.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1020191526528490
To make sure we don’t get shutdown by Facebook, another place will be created on social media. For the time being however, there is this Reddit group.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DallasGay1/
Summary
We need to start fighting back against Christian homophobia.
We need to fight back with effective tactics.
We need to protect the LGBT from harm.
Resources
I created this page for The Gay Agenda newsletter.
Learnings from protesting Trinity Church in the Bishops Art district.
Tactics and learnings in protesting a homophobic church. The protest at Trinity Church Bishop Arts.
An earlier essay thinking about effective counter measures against Stedfast Baptist church. Also, about the pathology of homophobic Christianity.
This is about a type of response that might appear to be supportive, but is pernicious.
