Delulu Christian woman, Sheila Gregoire, and the homophobic Lakepointe Church. Josh Hawerton
There isn't a woman's future in Evangelical and homophobic churches, but they these Evangelical women think there somehow is.
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So some say, “You are just publishing a Christian freak show for entertainment. I say, “What’s your point"?
Backstory: So Sheila Gregoire, Evangelical, is upset with Josh Howerton, pastor of megachurch Lakepoint Church.
In this sermon he says:
So this is the controversial part, starting out with instruction to men, then gives the exact same instruction to women:
1:18 … she's been planning this day her life so here's what she need to do man when it comes to that day just stand
1:26 where she tells you to stand wear what she tells you to wear and do what she tells you to do you'll make her the happiest woman in the world okay now I
1:32 got an amen let's see if you amen this Now
1:38 ladies when it comes to his wedding night he has been planning this day his
1:45 whole life so just stand where he tells you to stand wear what he tells you to
1:50 wear and do what he tells you to do and you're going to make him the happiest man in the world that's it man okay that
1:57 was free that was free
The “joke” is that the man and woman at the marriage are planning to do exactly what the other wants.
However, if you are promoting yourself you can selectively quote this. Sheila Gregorie has the following post. You can see that in omitting the first half, it comes across completely different.
SBC Megachurch pastor Josh Howerton's advice to women about the wedding night:
"Stand where he tells you to stand, wear what he tells you to wear, and do what he tells you to do."
It has been viewed 1.1 million times. Shared 362 times. Who needs uniformed flying monkeys when you have 41.4K easy to enrage followers?
https://twitter.com/sheilagregoire/status/1773363997770645696
And they then roast him over the coals with this podcast. I don’t know if in the podcast Gregoire includes the entire “joke,” but there is so much delulu nonsense I want to listen to in a day. Gregoire says it is. This is the link to the attack on Howerton, the link in her twitter is to something else.
https://baremarriage.com/2024/04/josh-howerton-wedding-night-advice-viral-misogyny/
Anytime Christians tear at each other, the LGBT are the winners.
Sheila Wray Gregoire. Background Info.
Gregoire is a small industry of publishing and podcasts.
https://www.instagram.com/sheilagregoire
https://linktr.ee/sheilagregoire
I should warn readers that visiting her website will hurt your brain.
Evidently Evangelicals have bad sex if I read her webpages right. I am not surprised that couples who have no prior sexual experience prior to marriage, or never had sex with different people, are monogamous, are against viewing sexually explicit material, and who have Christianity’s generally negative view on sex, have bad sex.
It is sort of like expecting to be able to play Listz on the piano, with no lessons, no instructors, no instruction materials, but just sheet music with some of the notes covered up.
It probably explains a lot about Evangelical Christians. Are they jealous of Gays and Lesbians?
Also, it likely is a factor in the higher divorce rate of Evangelical Christians, along with trying to have a working marriage of two self-righteous judgmental individuals. Also, I wonder if there is a divorce when one member of the marriage wakes up and comes to their senses and ceases being an Evangelical Christian and the other member is delulu for Jesus.
https://thedailytexan.com/2011/01/24/conservative-christians-divorce-more-study-says/
Also, Evangelicals get married younger, because they aren’t allowed sex until they do. It must be a bitter disappointment when the marriage night comes and it is bad sex and one of the unacknowledged, unconscious reasons for the marraige what that you were finally going to have sex.
Evidently there are a lot of sexually frustrated Evangelical women out there, at least enough to support Gregoire’s website, yet in Texas it is illegal to sell sex toys. From reading Gregoire’s website, maybe that is what Lakepointe needs to be selling, (As novelties, so you don’t get arrested.), to deal with this what Gregoire sees as a serious problem.
I think one question that needs to be asked is whether the problem is that Evangelical women are actually not much hot at all. I mean, if the women start out saying, “let us honor the Lord and provide a child,” it might be a damper. More likely, just a general repressed sexual nature with phobia over sex probably isn’t a good start for sex.
By the way, if you are meeting up with someone on Grindr, who probably is on the downlow, don’t ask if he is married, because if he is married, if he is, and you know it, you are guilty of alienation of affection, which is actually a law on the books. More importantly, some sexually frustrated Evangelical woman is likely going to be angry with you so you don’t want some downlow guy, unless he is really hot or much hotter than you, or you are otherwise likely to find. It is a risk/reward thing.
For Evangelical women I recommend some Bessie Smith records, such as “I Am Crazy About That Thing,” will work much better than all of Gregoire’s writings and postcasts. Stop believing in delusional Evangelical Christianity would probably work better.
Lakepointe multi-campus megachurch.
This is the webpage for the main church.
https://lakepointe.church/locations/rockwall-campus/
https://www.facebook.com/lpconnect
https://www.instagram.com/lpconnect
https://www.youtube.com/@LakepointeChurch
It seems their X (formerly Twitter) account was deleted. There was a link at their YouTube channel.
Reading the pages is sort of creepy, they want to pull in your whole life into the church. Does anyone remember the story of Antelope, Oregon?
Of course Lakepointe Church is anti-Gay.
At this this page you will see reference to re:generation which is
https://lakepointe.church/support-recovery/
They are offering the re:generation program to save people from their problems.
This is the re:generation website.
https://www.regenerationrecovery.org/
These are their programs regarding homosexuality which they see needing a program.
https://www.regenerationrecovery.org/search?query=homosexuality
Back to Lakepointe.
This is their counseling resources.
https://lakepointe.church/counseling/resources/
If you go to “Gender Identity” and click on the downward pointing red triangle, a drop down menu appears as follows:
It is a list of anti-Gay books. These are:
Desires in Conflict, by Joe Dallas, Harvest House Publishers, 2003. He list it as out of stock, but it is for sale at many online retailers. https://joedallas.com/product/desires-in-conflict/
Homosexuality and the Christian, Mark A. Yarhouse, Bethany House Publishers, division of Baker Book House, 2010. https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/37758
Understanding Homosexuality: Perspective for the Living Church, it is now in print as Understanding Homosexuality: Perspectives for the Local Church by a different publisher. https://www.solapublishing.com/understanding-homosexuality_Q-G110.
Gods Grace and the Homosexual New Door, by Alan Chambers. I wasn’t able to see if it is in print. Alan Chambers was formerly the head of an ex-gay movement.
Lakepointe is another idiotic homophobic church.
Why do I see Sheila Gregoire as delulu?
I think it is delusional to expect that women will get respect or have needs met in Evangelical Christianity. They believe in this dream world marriage and then find it isn’t what they thought it might be.
Basically, Evangelical Christianity is religous patriarchy and women are subordinate. They say it clearly.
Yes, the Southern Baptists are cracking down on pastor abuse, but that isn’t so much for the women. Men will not want to join a church were the pastor might be trying to have sex with their wife. The nature of Evangelical religion is that it attracts those who need emotional support, and those type of people don’t have all that much confidence and have fears. They are likely to be a lot less successful than a megachurch pastor. As for religious prohibitions against extramarital sex, it should be noted that forgiveness for sins, and how everyone is a sinner, and everyone is being tempted by the devil is a subculture where individual responsibility is undermined.
Of course it could be that Sheila Gregoire isn’t delulu at all, just her followers.
The men in Evangelical Christianity are very much concerned that they run the church and have women subordinate, and don’t through one way or another effectively end up running the churches.
It is a built in feature of Christianity that women aren’t to be preachers of any type.
This is the King James version of the Bible.
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
https://www.bibleref.com/1-Timothy/2/1-Timothy-2-11.html
How quiet is Gregoire?
This idea of a feminist (they would be horrified by that word) Evangelical movement or effort is a basic contradiction.
Of course with theology you have more plasticity and convolutions than mathematical topology will ever dream of, but I don’t want to hear your involved rationalization.
However, it is fun to watch Evangelical Christianity tear at itself.
